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		<title>By: Mario Host &#124; Hosting Reviews &#124; Ebay &#124; Seo &#124; Sem &#124; Web Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario Host &#124; Hosting Reviews &#124; Ebay &#124; Seo &#124; Sem &#124; Web Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Links: Is Basecamp Data Safe? More App store silliness. Podcasters don&#8217;t get sucked into Unlimited Hype BackBlaze Pod (Best Article this year for a Geek) MMS on Sept 25th bet it&#8217;s day AT&amp;T [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Links: Is Basecamp Data Safe? More App store silliness. Podcasters don&#8217;t get sucked into Unlimited Hype BackBlaze Pod (Best Article this year for a Geek) MMS on Sept 25th bet it&#8217;s day AT&amp;T [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, merchants are selling products the way THEY want to, not the way their customers want.  Take me, for example (and I think I&#039;m a pretty good example).  I have a few small, relatively low-traffic web sites that bring in a few extra bucks a month.  Most months the bandwdith I use is well within my plan and the price of the plan is quite reasonable.  I certainly can&#039;t afford - or at least don&#039;t want to pay for - dedicated servers and high bandwidth caps when it wouldn&#039;t be worth the money.

But I live in far of my own success.  What if that magic day comes when I get Slasdotted?  Under my current plan, I&#039;m sure my site would quickly go over it&#039;s &quot;unlimited&quot; cap and get shut off - and there I am, watching a potentially extremely lucrative day for me go down the drain as millions of hits bounce off a 404.

I don&#039;t want high bandwitdth caps ALL the time.  i want &quot;slashdot insurance&quot;.  I want &quot;Digg insurance&quot;.  So i don&#039;t use lots of bandwidth very often, but I want it when it&#039;s needed.  I don&#039;t mind paying (within reason) if I go over limit as long as the capacity is there when I need it.  i want *flexible* capacity.

I&#039;d pay a big hosting company an extra $1 or $2 a month for that kind of insurance - &quot;your web site won&#039;t go down due to traffic (but we will charge you per GB over )&quot;.  Or better yet, charge you per GB over your limit, but only up to a predetermined amount - say, &quot;If I go over my limit, keep the gates open and charge me per GB until it gets to $500, then shut it down&quot;.  like a buffer or &quot;overdraft protection&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, merchants are selling products the way THEY want to, not the way their customers want.  Take me, for example (and I think I&#8217;m a pretty good example).  I have a few small, relatively low-traffic web sites that bring in a few extra bucks a month.  Most months the bandwdith I use is well within my plan and the price of the plan is quite reasonable.  I certainly can&#8217;t afford &#8211; or at least don&#8217;t want to pay for &#8211; dedicated servers and high bandwidth caps when it wouldn&#8217;t be worth the money.</p>
<p>But I live in far of my own success.  What if that magic day comes when I get Slasdotted?  Under my current plan, I&#8217;m sure my site would quickly go over it&#8217;s &#8220;unlimited&#8221; cap and get shut off &#8211; and there I am, watching a potentially extremely lucrative day for me go down the drain as millions of hits bounce off a 404.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want high bandwitdth caps ALL the time.  i want &#8220;slashdot insurance&#8221;.  I want &#8220;Digg insurance&#8221;.  So i don&#8217;t use lots of bandwidth very often, but I want it when it&#8217;s needed.  I don&#8217;t mind paying (within reason) if I go over limit as long as the capacity is there when I need it.  i want *flexible* capacity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d pay a big hosting company an extra $1 or $2 a month for that kind of insurance &#8211; &#8220;your web site won&#8217;t go down due to traffic (but we will charge you per GB over )&#8221;.  Or better yet, charge you per GB over your limit, but only up to a predetermined amount &#8211; say, &#8220;If I go over my limit, keep the gates open and charge me per GB until it gets to $500, then shut it down&#8221;.  like a buffer or &#8220;overdraft protection&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as unlimited.

There are very few companies left who actually have a limit thats actually show to the public one that comes to mind is www.driphost.com

Again there is not such thing as unlimited</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as unlimited.</p>
<p>There are very few companies left who actually have a limit thats actually show to the public one that comes to mind is <a href="http://www.driphost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.driphost.com</a></p>
<p>Again there is not such thing as unlimited</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Terms &amp; Conditions&quot; for 1&amp;1 actually put a limit of six gigabytes per month on hosting account.  Go Daddy&#039;s &quot;Universal Terms of Service&quot;  has an even more vague requirement that accounts not have exceed so called &quot;excessive space and bandwidth.&quot;  These so called &quot;unlimited&quot; accounts are bait and switch marketing that require during sign up that the customer agrees to allow the company to enforce *LIMITS* on the &quot;unlimited&quot; account as stated in the legal document.  Go Daddy at least has the sense to put a little plus symbol by the word &quot;Unlimited&quot; to clue people into the fact that they won&#039;t follow the standard definition of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Terms &amp; Conditions&#8221; for 1&amp;1 actually put a limit of six gigabytes per month on hosting account.  Go Daddy&#8217;s &#8220;Universal Terms of Service&#8221;  has an even more vague requirement that accounts not have exceed so called &#8220;excessive space and bandwidth.&#8221;  These so called &#8220;unlimited&#8221; accounts are bait and switch marketing that require during sign up that the customer agrees to allow the company to enforce *LIMITS* on the &#8220;unlimited&#8221; account as stated in the legal document.  Go Daddy at least has the sense to put a little plus symbol by the word &#8220;Unlimited&#8221; to clue people into the fact that they won&#8217;t follow the standard definition of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Szanto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Szanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unlimited&quot; is a very crooked and deceitful marketing scheme to lure in people (customers) who are technologically illiterate and know very little to nothing about running a webhosting company, dedicated servers, network administration, the actual costs of hosting, etcetera.

Dreamhost offers &quot;Unlimited + 50GB&quot; for disk space. That&#039;s one step better than just plainly saying &quot;Unlimited.&quot; That&#039;s like the childish and immature way of saying &quot;infinite plus one&quot; in attempt to win an argument. Isn&#039;t there a Latin or Greek term to describe this logical fallacy?

What also isn&#039;t fair about this kind of competition is that all the big webhosting companies practically own the webhosting market through their dishonesty and twisting words (such as &quot;unlimited&quot;) and using these deceitful and dishonest methods to reel in customers.

And then the company&#039;s that are truthful, honest, and ethical in their ways are no match to &quot;unlimited,&quot; and get completely skipped over to lose to a company that is lying to a customer to attain them.

This is an unethical monopoly; the market is monopolized by lying and lawyer-like crooked companies. It isn&#039;t fair. Why should one become unethical and immoral to attain customers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlimited&#8221; is a very crooked and deceitful marketing scheme to lure in people (customers) who are technologically illiterate and know very little to nothing about running a webhosting company, dedicated servers, network administration, the actual costs of hosting, etcetera.</p>
<p>Dreamhost offers &#8220;Unlimited + 50GB&#8221; for disk space. That&#8217;s one step better than just plainly saying &#8220;Unlimited.&#8221; That&#8217;s like the childish and immature way of saying &#8220;infinite plus one&#8221; in attempt to win an argument. Isn&#8217;t there a Latin or Greek term to describe this logical fallacy?</p>
<p>What also isn&#8217;t fair about this kind of competition is that all the big webhosting companies practically own the webhosting market through their dishonesty and twisting words (such as &#8220;unlimited&#8221;) and using these deceitful and dishonest methods to reel in customers.</p>
<p>And then the company&#8217;s that are truthful, honest, and ethical in their ways are no match to &#8220;unlimited,&#8221; and get completely skipped over to lose to a company that is lying to a customer to attain them.</p>
<p>This is an unethical monopoly; the market is monopolized by lying and lawyer-like crooked companies. It isn&#8217;t fair. Why should one become unethical and immoral to attain customers?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Leclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Leclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer &quot;unmetered&quot; vs &quot;unlimited&quot; but it does not have the same marketing appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer &#8220;unmetered&#8221; vs &#8220;unlimited&#8221; but it does not have the same marketing appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;unlimited&quot; is really pretty misleading.  Since it does have a limit, it&#039;s just not explicitly stated.

There&#039;s no such thing as unlimited disk.  If I were to upload countless files all day they will suspend the account.  They aren&#039;t going to let me put a few TB&#039;s of data, even if there&#039;s no copyright issue.

IMHO &quot;unlimited&quot; is really just a way of getting around being attacked for customer unfriendly TOS&#039;s which allow them to suspend your account for pretty much anything.  

It&#039;s pretty unfriendly to sell an account that explicitly says &quot;500 GB Bandwidth / month&quot; but know that any way a customer could use that would involve suspension due to CPU or memory usage  (buried in the TOS).

With &quot;unlimited*&quot;, that&#039;s no longer the case.  They haven&#039;t been suspending due to bandwidth in years thanks to high allotments.  They are just suspending due to CPU and memory usage.

If it weren&#039;t the case, why wouldn&#039;t many large sites just get 50 different shared hosting accounts and have DNS round robin  distribute traffic while checking them constantly for uptime.  For a small decrease in availability they would save a fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unlimited&#8221; is really pretty misleading.  Since it does have a limit, it&#8217;s just not explicitly stated.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as unlimited disk.  If I were to upload countless files all day they will suspend the account.  They aren&#8217;t going to let me put a few TB&#8217;s of data, even if there&#8217;s no copyright issue.</p>
<p>IMHO &#8220;unlimited&#8221; is really just a way of getting around being attacked for customer unfriendly TOS&#8217;s which allow them to suspend your account for pretty much anything.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty unfriendly to sell an account that explicitly says &#8220;500 GB Bandwidth / month&#8221; but know that any way a customer could use that would involve suspension due to CPU or memory usage  (buried in the TOS).</p>
<p>With &#8220;unlimited*&#8221;, that&#8217;s no longer the case.  They haven&#8217;t been suspending due to bandwidth in years thanks to high allotments.  They are just suspending due to CPU and memory usage.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t the case, why wouldn&#8217;t many large sites just get 50 different shared hosting accounts and have DNS round robin  distribute traffic while checking them constantly for uptime.  For a small decrease in availability they would save a fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreamhost has been doing this for years.  While it&#039;s nothing new, it&#039;s also not explicitly publicized by a lot of web hosting companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreamhost has been doing this for years.  While it&#8217;s nothing new, it&#8217;s also not explicitly publicized by a lot of web hosting companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Webbhotell City Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webbhotell City Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny - in Sweden we are going the other way. There is no such thing as unlimited as your hardware and more will dictate what type of bandwidth you can actually get out - and it is different for each customer. So we are throwing out the old &quot;unlimited&quot; as we all know that does not exist in reality. So it is sad to see this come back from such a big player that cannot truly give unlimited - if one knows what unlimited truly means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny &#8211; in Sweden we are going the other way. There is no such thing as unlimited as your hardware and more will dictate what type of bandwidth you can actually get out &#8211; and it is different for each customer. So we are throwing out the old &#8220;unlimited&#8221; as we all know that does not exist in reality. So it is sad to see this come back from such a big player that cannot truly give unlimited &#8211; if one knows what unlimited truly means.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news. We can allow our users to upload more photos and include video, especially as 1&amp;1 have upgraded disk space too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news. We can allow our users to upload more photos and include video, especially as 1&amp;1 have upgraded disk space too.</p>
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