Comments on: Apple Data Center May Reduce Use of CDNs http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/08/19/apple-data-center-may-reduce-use-of-cdns/ News and analysis about data centers, cloud computing, managed hosting and disaster recovery Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:24:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Spotify iPhone App | DigitalOutbox http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/08/19/apple-data-center-may-reduce-use-of-cdns/comment-page-1/#comment-6218 Spotify iPhone App | DigitalOutbox Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:20:40 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=14561#comment-6218 [...] I still wonder about Apple though. Everyone said they wouldn’t approve Spotify. It’s an iPod killer, who would use the iTunes store instead of this? The fact they approved it seemed to be at a time when the FCC investigation into Apple, Google and AT&T was underway. This was a different Apple. A changing Apple. I wonder if it is changing, and that they too will have a streaming option available in iTunes 9 and a future iPhone upgrade. If they did then the appearance of Spotify would make a lot more sense. Apple needs to do something with their new datacentre. [...] [...] I still wonder about Apple though. Everyone said they wouldn’t approve Spotify. It’s an iPod killer, who would use the iTunes store instead of this? The fact they approved it seemed to be at a time when the FCC investigation into Apple, Google and AT&T was underway. This was a different Apple. A changing Apple. I wonder if it is changing, and that they too will have a streaming option available in iTunes 9 and a future iPhone upgrade. If they did then the appearance of Spotify would make a lot more sense. Apple needs to do something with their new datacentre. [...]

]]> By: Rich Miller http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/08/19/apple-data-center-may-reduce-use-of-cdns/comment-page-1/#comment-5496 Rich Miller Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:58:57 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=14561#comment-5496 Hi Chuck, There are several interesting differences between Apple's data center plans and others that have used additional infrastructure to reduce their CDN costs/usage. Microsoft slashed its use of CDNs by building an Edge Content Network with assistance from Limelight Networks and as many as 99 nodes around the globe. MySpace/Fox added peering capabilities by taking additional space in a highly-connected Equinix.facility in LA. I'm not sure that an Apple facility in western North Carolina provides the same CDN reduction capabilities as either of those approaches, but it's possible that Apple' may have much more deployment of in-house infrastructure in the pipeline. As you note, Apple has lots of cash and can invest in Infrastructure as a competitive advantage if it sees an opportunity. One thing's for sure: Whether for cloud or CDN management, Apple's infrastructure plans bear watching. Hi Chuck,

There are several interesting differences between Apple’s data center plans and others that have used additional infrastructure to reduce their CDN costs/usage. Microsoft slashed its use of CDNs by building an Edge Content Network with assistance from Limelight Networks and as many as 99 nodes around the globe. MySpace/Fox added peering capabilities by taking additional space in a highly-connected Equinix.facility in LA.

I’m not sure that an Apple facility in western North Carolina provides the same CDN reduction capabilities as either of those approaches, but it’s possible that Apple’ may have much more deployment of in-house infrastructure in the pipeline. As you note, Apple has lots of cash and can invest in Infrastructure as a competitive advantage if it sees an opportunity.

One thing’s for sure: Whether for cloud or CDN management, Apple’s infrastructure plans bear watching.

]]> By: Chuck Goolsbee http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/08/19/apple-data-center-may-reduce-use-of-cdns/comment-page-1/#comment-5492 Chuck Goolsbee Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:44:01 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=14561#comment-5492 This is more reasonable by far than the "Apple getting into the cloud to compete with Google" speculation earlier in the week. Apple is a huge player in content distribution through iTunes. I imagine from running their Newark CA facility, they have gathered all the data they need to design their next facility. When offered a green field now, with costs being relatively low in the current economy, and Apple flush with plenty of cash, why not go big? Better to build a "big ass" facility (to use your terminology Rich) with room to grow than repeat what Dilbert's company did. Apple is a smart company, and this is how smart companies behave. When they start doing this a dozen times in locations around the planet I'll start to listen to the cloud/google/world domination chatter. --chuck This is more reasonable by far than the “Apple getting into the cloud to compete with Google” speculation earlier in the week. Apple is a huge player in content distribution through iTunes. I imagine from running their Newark CA facility, they have gathered all the data they need to design their next facility. When offered a green field now, with costs being relatively low in the current economy, and Apple flush with plenty of cash, why not go big? Better to build a “big ass” facility (to use your terminology Rich) with room to grow than repeat what Dilbert’s company did.

Apple is a smart company, and this is how smart companies behave.

When they start doing this a dozen times in locations around the planet I’ll start to listen to the cloud/google/world domination chatter.

–chuck

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