Comments on: FBI Seizes Servers at Dallas Data Center http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/ News and analysis about data centers, cloud computing, managed hosting and disaster recovery Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:56:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: John Roberts http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-4466 John Roberts Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:41:35 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-4466 The FBI was apparently investigating a company that was scamming phone service (notice the phone providers were affected). Apparently one of them was suspected of providing more service than they were paying for. This is a real crime. The FBI is really expected to investigate and prosecute this. In a cloud computing environment (particularly a virtualized one), what physical box equals what IP is not as evident as one might hope. This is a danger of cloud computing. Percentage wise (compared to all the clouds out there), this is not a substantial issue (unless you are the one affected). In cloud computing it is difficult to assure data, as it is not under your control. Search articles for "What to do if your cloud provider disappears", and other security nightmares from cloud computing. If it is a non-critical service that you don't have money to provide in-house (such as my personnal E-mail), assurance is less important than cost and Cloud Computing makes sense. If it is your business, separate systems with a Certification and Accreditation, backup power and multiple ISP's are the way to go. The FBI was apparently investigating a company that was scamming phone service (notice the phone providers were affected). Apparently one of them was suspected of providing more service than they were paying for. This is a real crime. The FBI is really expected to investigate and prosecute this. In a cloud computing environment (particularly a virtualized one), what physical box equals what IP is not as evident as one might hope. This is a danger of cloud computing. Percentage wise (compared to all the clouds out there), this is not a substantial issue (unless you are the one affected). In cloud computing it is difficult to assure data, as it is not under your control. Search articles for “What to do if your cloud provider disappears”, and other security nightmares from cloud computing. If it is a non-critical service that you don’t have money to provide in-house (such as my personnal E-mail), assurance is less important than cost and Cloud Computing makes sense. If it is your business, separate systems with a Certification and Accreditation, backup power and multiple ISP’s are the way to go.

]]> By: FBI confiscated hosting service center - Politics and Other Controversies - City-Data Forum http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3414 FBI confiscated hosting service center - Politics and Other Controversies - City-Data Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:16:35 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3414 [...] of NYT-- nothing. I sent a letter to the editor requesting coverage. CNN had a link to this. FBI Seizes Servers at Dallas Data Center « Data Center Knowledge Another from google appears to have addendum to original article. Not Another CONspiracy: [...] [...] of NYT– nothing. I sent a letter to the editor requesting coverage. CNN had a link to this. FBI Seizes Servers at Dallas Data Center « Data Center Knowledge Another from google appears to have addendum to original article. Not Another CONspiracy: [...]

]]> By: Rich http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3368 Rich Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:38:54 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3368 That is crazy. I know when cops do warrants I heard they can't take servers. They have to take a Digital Copy of the servers as it would interfere with busineses. But, I guess depending on the severity it was necessary. I am not knocking the FBI, Im just confused cuz I was told you couldn't do that about a month ago. That is crazy. I know when cops do warrants I heard they can’t take servers. They have to take a Digital Copy of the servers as it would interfere with busineses. But, I guess depending on the severity it was necessary. I am not knocking the FBI, Im just confused cuz I was told you couldn’t do that about a month ago.

]]> By: 2GT http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3367 2GT Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:50:29 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3367 bust-the-move, your tax $ funded the FBI to investigate in your digital piracy -- RAID this time, maybe Snapshots next time, to protect your digital data. bust-the-move, your tax $ funded the FBI to investigate in your digital piracy — RAID this time, maybe Snapshots next time, to protect your digital data.

]]> By: Martin Leclair http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3366 Martin Leclair Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:57:26 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3366 I just understood that they had colo in a DC, must be the COLO DC that let the FBI cease what they wanted. I just understood that they had colo in a DC, must be the COLO DC that let the FBI cease what they wanted.

]]> By: Martin Leclair http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3363 Martin Leclair Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:09:40 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3363 What did Core IP do when the FBI showed up? Open the DC doors and tell the FBI, ok go ahead and kill 50 businesses? It is normal to panic in such cases and not to know what to do. But first thing to do is call your lawyer and have him talk with the FBI, have the FBI send him a copy of the warrant and validate the extent of the warrant or at least if the warrant is valid or permits them to do what they (the FBI) are about to do. What did Core IP do when the FBI showed up? Open the DC doors and tell the FBI, ok go ahead and kill 50 businesses? It is normal to panic in such cases and not to know what to do. But first thing to do is call your lawyer and have him talk with the FBI, have the FBI send him a copy of the warrant and validate the extent of the warrant or at least if the warrant is valid or permits them to do what they (the FBI) are about to do.

]]> By: Cliff http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3352 Cliff Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:35:01 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3352 “4th amendment requires a legal search and it looks like since they showed up with an valid warrant we can knock off the storm trooper facist-fear mongering!” Ah, thank heavens for a valid warrant. I guess its just a minor detail that it was served on the wrong people. “4th amendment requires a legal search and it looks like since they showed up with an valid warrant we can knock off the storm trooper facist-fear mongering!”

Ah, thank heavens for a valid warrant. I guess its just a minor detail that it was served on the wrong people.

]]> By: stretch http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3346 stretch Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:20:50 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3346 "4th amendment requires a legal search and it looks like since they showed up with an valid warrant we can knock off the storm trooper facist-fear mongering!" That's a good one. I sure hope they made fifty copies and dutifully distributed them to the actual owners of the equipment that was taken. But since they apparently can't even tell who owns the equipment they took, we can probably assume that didn't happen. Maybe they were just getting desperate for IT funding: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/22/fbi_email_access_woes/ “4th amendment requires a legal search and it looks like since they showed up with an valid warrant we can knock off the storm trooper facist-fear mongering!”

That’s a good one. I sure hope they made fifty copies and dutifully distributed them to the actual owners of the equipment that was taken. But since they apparently can’t even tell who owns the equipment they took, we can probably assume that didn’t happen.

Maybe they were just getting desperate for IT funding: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/22/fbi_email_access_woes/

]]> By: Vincent http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3343 Vincent Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:24:30 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3343 wow that's like a digital equivalent of the FBI arresting an entire town because they had reason to believe a thief was living there. How can they confiscate all servers when this customer would have contracted one rack, cage or whatever? wow that’s like a digital equivalent of the FBI arresting an entire town because they had reason to believe a thief was living there. How can they confiscate all servers when this customer would have contracted one rack, cage or whatever?

]]> By: kenoshi http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/04/03/fbi-seizes-servers-at-dallas-data-center/comment-page-1/#comment-3337 kenoshi Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:23:54 +0000 http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/?p=8989#comment-3337 Expect FBI to do any sort of real investigative work? Now you are asking for too much! Expect FBI to do any sort of real investigative work? Now you are asking for too much!

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